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	<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on NY PENN&#8217;ed UP! by Joe Versaggi</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/05/ny-penned-up/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Versaggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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I rode the US202 Doylestown service (their "south line") on Saturday, which historically was West Hunterdon Transit. While there were big NEC delays due to power problems on Saturday morning, my Trans Bridge bus got in 10 minutes early, and cost $5.75 less than NJT. It was packed.

As for the I-78 Allentown route, technically, what you stated above is not what happened. The present day 117 (US22 , limited stop) is the vestigial remains of the old 350. Before NJT, the 350 was Public Service, the 114 was Somerset Bus. Before 1963, the 350/150 was Greyhound. 

Trans-Bridge long had a franchise in New Jersey by ownership of Delaware River Coach Lines, which runs the local P-Burg-Easton service under contract to NJT. In the early 1980's, they sought ICC authority and got access to PABT. The Raritan Line service to P-Burg and 350 to Allentown were still running. They all over-lapped for about a year. Then NJT decided to cut low density routes and the 350, which had stops along US22 east of Somerville and was no match for the new Trans-Bridge I-78 service, so it perished and became the 117. The 114 continued running to Clinton until 1993, when it became the 884 service, operated by Raritan Valley Bus, then became a corporate Wheels service contracted to Suburban Transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rode the US202 Doylestown service (their &#8220;south line&#8221;) on Saturday, which historically was West Hunterdon Transit. While there were big NEC delays due to power problems on Saturday morning, my Trans Bridge bus got in 10 minutes early, and cost $5.75 less than NJT. It was packed.</p>
<p>As for the I-78 Allentown route, technically, what you stated above is not what happened. The present day 117 (US22 , limited stop) is the vestigial remains of the old 350. Before NJT, the 350 was Public Service, the 114 was Somerset Bus. Before 1963, the 350/150 was Greyhound. </p>
<p>Trans-Bridge long had a franchise in New Jersey by ownership of Delaware River Coach Lines, which runs the local P-Burg-Easton service under contract to NJT. In the early 1980&#8217;s, they sought ICC authority and got access to PABT. The Raritan Line service to P-Burg and 350 to Allentown were still running. They all over-lapped for about a year. Then NJT decided to cut low density routes and the 350, which had stops along US22 east of Somerville and was no match for the new Trans-Bridge I-78 service, so it perished and became the 117. The 114 continued running to Clinton until 1993, when it became the 884 service, operated by Raritan Valley Bus, then became a corporate Wheels service contracted to Suburban Transit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NY PENN&#8217;ed UP! by Eine Kleine Multi-level</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/05/ny-penned-up/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Eine Kleine Multi-level</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That "glorified bus company" comment is often applied to SEPTA, interestingly enough.  Perhaps the management structure of both companies is too centralized? because the New York MTA does not seem to suffer as greatly, even though that organization also has a single overall president.

Although both LIRR and NJT do not have any ownership of tracks in Penn, NJT is the only entity that does not have any access to dispatching, which is time-shared between Amtrak and LIRR.  One thing that NJT has done that neither Amtrak and LIRR have done, though, is squeeze trains into NYP that the station was not really designed to handle.  (And of course, LIRR has four tunnels on their end; the second set of tunnels that NJT intends to overspend on won't serve NYP, as we all know.)

FTR, Trans-Bridge Lines operates bus routes that used to be NJ Transit's, e.g. the former route 350 to Allentown (route 150 originally).

And was the H&#38;M so slow and overcrowded back when they had two more waterfront terminals to serve (PRR Exchange Place Terminal and Erie Terminal)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;glorified bus company&#8221; comment is often applied to SEPTA, interestingly enough.  Perhaps the management structure of both companies is too centralized? because the New York MTA does not seem to suffer as greatly, even though that organization also has a single overall president.</p>
<p>Although both LIRR and NJT do not have any ownership of tracks in Penn, NJT is the only entity that does not have any access to dispatching, which is time-shared between Amtrak and LIRR.  One thing that NJT has done that neither Amtrak and LIRR have done, though, is squeeze trains into NYP that the station was not really designed to handle.  (And of course, LIRR has four tunnels on their end; the second set of tunnels that NJT intends to overspend on won&#8217;t serve NYP, as we all know.)</p>
<p>FTR, Trans-Bridge Lines operates bus routes that used to be NJ Transit&#8217;s, e.g. the former route 350 to Allentown (route 150 originally).</p>
<p>And was the H&amp;M so slow and overcrowded back when they had two more waterfront terminals to serve (PRR Exchange Place Terminal and Erie Terminal)?</p>
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		<title>Comment on NY PENN&#8217;ed UP! by Joe Versaggi</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/05/ny-penned-up/#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Versaggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is more about NJT's laziness, arrogance and incompetence, not Amtrak's. Even on weekends, I have never encountered the 7th Av concourse escalators running at all or in the right direction. That part of the station is NJT's turf, not Amtrak's.  Unfortunately, NJT is making Hoboken too hard to get to on weekends. PATH runs a slow, crowded, 2 route system. So on weekends, take a bus. I am taking Trans Bridge Lines on National Train Day. Why not, NJT is nothing more than a glorified bus company.

NJT will not come to the operations table and figure out an operating plan for NYPS. LIRR shares tracks with the 2 railroads and has had one for decades. NJT's lack of ownership is not a valid excuse. They don't own PABT either, but it has an operating plan with assigned gates with the facility run far smoother inspite of Turnpike and Lincoln Tunnel disruptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is more about NJT&#8217;s laziness, arrogance and incompetence, not Amtrak&#8217;s. Even on weekends, I have never encountered the 7th Av concourse escalators running at all or in the right direction. That part of the station is NJT&#8217;s turf, not Amtrak&#8217;s.  Unfortunately, NJT is making Hoboken too hard to get to on weekends. PATH runs a slow, crowded, 2 route system. So on weekends, take a bus. I am taking Trans Bridge Lines on National Train Day. Why not, NJT is nothing more than a glorified bus company.</p>
<p>NJT will not come to the operations table and figure out an operating plan for NYPS. LIRR shares tracks with the 2 railroads and has had one for decades. NJT&#8217;s lack of ownership is not a valid excuse. They don&#8217;t own PABT either, but it has an operating plan with assigned gates with the facility run far smoother inspite of Turnpike and Lincoln Tunnel disruptions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NY PENN&#8217;ed UP! by capntransit</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/05/ny-penned-up/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>capntransit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Len!  Unfortunately, we're about to spend billions of dollars on "improvements" that will do little for long-distance travelers and almost nothing for commuters.  Here's my summary of the issues - which relies on a good chunk of NJ-ARP work:

http://capntransit.blogspot.com/search/label/penn%20station</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Len!  Unfortunately, we&#8217;re about to spend billions of dollars on &#8220;improvements&#8221; that will do little for long-distance travelers and almost nothing for commuters.  Here&#8217;s my summary of the issues - which relies on a good chunk of NJ-ARP work:</p>
<p><a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/search/label/penn%20station" rel="nofollow">http://capntransit.blogspot.com/search/label/penn%20station</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Penn Centralization of NJT M&#38;E Service Continues by Joe Versaggi</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/04/penn-centralization-of-njt-me-service-continues/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Versaggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The zone bus fares aren't that much cheaper than rail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The zone bus fares aren&#8217;t that much cheaper than rail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raritan Line also being cut on weekends by Joe Versaggi</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/04/raritan-line-also-being-cut-on-weekends/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Versaggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you are suggesting would cost about a $1 Billion since the Lehigh Line portion between Aldene and Hunter would have to be triple-tracked, then a flyover junction onto the NEC, which is even more big bucks, and finally the Waterfront connection completed in the westbound direction. It is done only on the eastbound side, which precluded anything but NJCL trains from using it weekday rush hours since they "wrong-railed" westbound to Rahway.  

What they should do is run service once or twice an hour between Plainfield and Elizabeth, and further east, restoring the old CNJ main east of Cranford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you are suggesting would cost about a $1 Billion since the Lehigh Line portion between Aldene and Hunter would have to be triple-tracked, then a flyover junction onto the NEC, which is even more big bucks, and finally the Waterfront connection completed in the westbound direction. It is done only on the eastbound side, which precluded anything but NJCL trains from using it weekday rush hours since they &#8220;wrong-railed&#8221; westbound to Rahway.  </p>
<p>What they should do is run service once or twice an hour between Plainfield and Elizabeth, and further east, restoring the old CNJ main east of Cranford.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Penn Centralization of NJT M&#38;E Service Continues by Clark Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/04/penn-centralization-of-njt-me-service-continues/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see every 15 minute local service between Summit and Newark with the terminal being Hoboken for MU's and if the schedule can be improve by using MU's then all trains to Hoboken with good connections at Newark for the Locomotive hauled trains.  Again for intra-New Jersey service, the fare system should be the same as the buses with transfers to them EVEN and ESPECIALLY for single trips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see every 15 minute local service between Summit and Newark with the terminal being Hoboken for MU&#8217;s and if the schedule can be improve by using MU&#8217;s then all trains to Hoboken with good connections at Newark for the Locomotive hauled trains.  Again for intra-New Jersey service, the fare system should be the same as the buses with transfers to them EVEN and ESPECIALLY for single trips.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raritan Line also being cut on weekends by Clark Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/04/raritan-line-also-being-cut-on-weekends/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Raritan service was every 15 minutes (or at least every half hour) and with the SAME fares as the bus between Newark, Raritan and all points between, would the ridership be enough better because the service would then be true TRANSIT.  I could see with proper bus connections to some of the malls that this would be a help to people living in Plainfield and Newark.  Then if the Hoboken connection was fast it might be a better way of getting around New Jersey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Raritan service was every 15 minutes (or at least every half hour) and with the SAME fares as the bus between Newark, Raritan and all points between, would the ridership be enough better because the service would then be true TRANSIT.  I could see with proper bus connections to some of the malls that this would be a help to people living in Plainfield and Newark.  Then if the Hoboken connection was fast it might be a better way of getting around New Jersey.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raritan Line also being cut on weekends by Eine Kleine Multi-level</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/04/raritan-line-also-being-cut-on-weekends/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>Eine Kleine Multi-level</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no sense in operating such service on the weekend.  If anything, direct service to/from the waterfront should have been a weekday affair, when they could have attracted the most passengers.

Now of course, there's no service at all.  The only trains to use the Waterfront Connection in revenue service will be the "former CNJ" NJCL trains to/from Bay Head.  Ah, but who cares when it's still "full speed ahead" towards THE Boondoggle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no sense in operating such service on the weekend.  If anything, direct service to/from the waterfront should have been a weekday affair, when they could have attracted the most passengers.</p>
<p>Now of course, there&#8217;s no service at all.  The only trains to use the Waterfront Connection in revenue service will be the &#8220;former CNJ&#8221; NJCL trains to/from Bay Head.  Ah, but who cares when it&#8217;s still &#8220;full speed ahead&#8221; towards THE Boondoggle?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Penn Centralization of NJT M&#38;E Service Continues by Eine Kleine Multi-level</title>
		<link>http://www.nj-arp.org/blog/2008/04/penn-centralization-of-njt-me-service-continues/#comment-614</link>
		<dc:creator>Eine Kleine Multi-level</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True about Kolluri.  Sarles is a mere sounding board.

What NJT needs to do is drop THE Tunnel like a hot potato and concentrate on maintaining/increasing service levels to present destinations, as well as focus on intrastate service expansion in earnest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True about Kolluri.  Sarles is a mere sounding board.</p>
<p>What NJT needs to do is drop THE Tunnel like a hot potato and concentrate on maintaining/increasing service levels to present destinations, as well as focus on intrastate service expansion in earnest.</p>
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